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From: m.driussi@genie.com Subject: (urth) Indian Rope Tricks Date: Fri, 29 Aug 97 00:14:00 GMT [Posted from URTH, a mailing list about Gene Wolfe's New Sun and other works] Reply: Item #4346774 from URTH@LISTS.BEST.COM@INET03# alga, Sioux as French for "cutthroat" (er, "cultellarii"?) now =that= is very interesting, since it ties in =exactly= with the element of "The Tale of the Boy Called Frog" of TBOTNS, wherein the teacher of all these animal Kiplingoids is called, not the expected Baloo the Bear (hmmm), but the Naked One, "who was also called the Savage, or Squanto" (III, ch. 19). This character is the one who taught Frog to plough the fish, leading Frog to plough his twin brother Fish; this name belongs to a Native American Indian of the Pawtuxet tribe who is said to have taught the pilgrims how to plough the fish. Interesting that the teacher character in both stories (TS and TBCF) is linked to a Native American Indian name. OTOH, since he looks like his throat has been cut, does this mean that we have at long last determined the group that cut him? (One presumes that the "Cutthroat Tribe" got their name for doing unto others rather than self-inflicting, no?) =mantis=