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From: tony.ellis@futurenet.co.uk (Tony Ellis) Subject: (urth) Re: Jonas & Hethor & Thecla Date: 24 Mar 1998 16:21:33 +0100 [Posted from URTH, a mailing list about Gene Wolfe's New Sun and other works] 24/03/98 15:23 RE>Jonas & Hethor & Thecla Alga wrote: >...I think >that wherever Jonas grew up, it was not on Urth, though it may have been on >Earth (he knows "Alice" and the Theseus story, though this could simply >point to a good ship's library). Every time he refers to Urth, it is as a >port, not as his home. Yes. Jonas is a sailor, so it would be natural for him to regard a ship, or perhaps all space, as his home. <snip> >...But if this were so, Inire's mirrors would be >time-travel devices if Jonas were to get to his goal, and they seem instead >to be to be gates to another place (yes, I know how trite the "parallel >universe" thing sounds, but really, what else?) I've always assumed that Jonas simply escapes to a -place- where he can be repaired, rather than a time. (A place in our universe, that is, rather than some other.) One of the worlds of the Hierodules, perhaps, or some other planet that still has a viable technology. >Robert and Marie, too, could >have come from that place. I think if they come from anywhere it's the past rather than a parallel Earth, since it's implied pretty strongly that the Botanical Gardens extend into Urth's past. But don't forget that they may simply be "chant-caught" contempories of Severian. I've always loved that scene for its tantalising ambiguity. >...the presence of the Claw, or something in his heritage, somehow >imprints Thecla on Sev in a unique way. Nevertheless, this isn't explained, Hmm, I could swear that there's at least one point where Sev or someone -does- assert that the Claw resurected Thecla within him. But of course I have no idea where <g>. I'll start hunting. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/