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From: CRCulver@aol.com Subject: Re: (urth) Inire's...Things Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:50:46 EDT After a forced absence (I haven't read FHoC, darnit!) I am happy to be contributing now that the BotNS is being discussed again. Mantis said: <But there is the "isochronon," a gift to the autarch from the ruler of some other planet (III, ch. 34) which might be a nightwatch robot or just a mechanical clock.> I always thought it was the water clock mentioned in another part of the text (no citation at the moment, I'm afraid). Mantis continued: <But it just seems so =different= from Inire's style.> Inire's technology appears to be magic, it is so different from the somewhat- real science of the ship of Tzadkiel. A lumbering thing isn't what I would thing of as a creation of Father Inire. Mantis also said: <(In a Tolkien setting it would be, what, a Balrog coming up the volcano vent?)> Yes, and the man-apes would represent the Orcs of Moria. This scene always struck me as taken right from Tolkien; so much so that the "thing" which lumbers out of the depths would be a living thing and not a machine. Christopher R. Culver <crculver@aol.com> http://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html ------------------------------------------------ "The darkest dreams are the ones that come true." -Warren Defever *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/