From: Jim Jordan <jbjordan@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfe's Women (There Are Doors) -Reply
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:35:46 

At 01:10 PM 7/1/98 -0400, you wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jim Jordan wrote:
>
>> 	While the modern view is that men and women are pretty much the same
>> except for plumbing, the Christian view is that they are radically
>> different and complementary. 
>
>This is not the place for a big debate on this (I'd be happy to discuss it
>in private e-mail), but this needs some qualification.  There are plenty
>of Christians who would not agree that the male/female differences you
>describe are "the Christian view"--including Christians committed to
>orthodoxy, not just the Bishop Spong types.
>
>I don't deny that the worldview you describe is quite possibly similar to
>Wolfe's, however, which is really the only thing relevant to thread.

	Point taken and granted, though I think the overall "tradition" is pretty
close to what I set out, which outsetment of course was very brief and not
nuanced. For instance: "Why women be CAN not (not may not) be clergy?
Because the minister represents Christ to the Bride, so by design that is a
male role. Women cannot do it any more than men can menstruate." Now, such
argument is called in question today, by "conservative" people as well as
"liberal" ones, but it IS the tradition. And all I was trying to do was
give a thumbnail sketch of traditional thinking, since Wolfe is pretty
traditional, and, as you say, that's what is relevant here.
	Not trying to preempt valid theological discussion, which is for another
forum. So, your point is taken.

Nutria


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