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From: Mark Andersen <manderse@nmsu.edu>
Subject: (urth) Urth condemned, the Autarch's memories
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:56:03 


adam louis stephanides <astephan@students.uiuc.edu> wrote:

> the Autarchy
> was created about the same time as Urth was condemned by the
> Hierogrammates (the end of Typhon's reign),

This statement really rang the alarm bells for me. I wonder now if
hubris, setting himself and his family up as gods to be worshipped on
Whorl, was the abomination that led to the condemnation of Urth? Were
there other Whorls besides the one we read of in the Long Sun (almost
certainly, I would guess)? Is this a substantive link or a coincidental
between the Long Sun's story of true vs. false gods and the New Sun's
story of true vs. false redemption?

m.driussi@genie.com wrote:

> We
> even have text (in URTH) to show what that is like: the old
> autarch(s) gather up and say, "Find somebody else right now (because
> you are dying)."
My impression has always been that this is because they wish to live on.
the personalities of the dead Autarchs insist :"Find another" (body for
us to
live in)!

Dr. Mark C. Andersen, Department of Fishery and Wildlife Sciences
New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM 88003-0003
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