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From: marc@continuumsi.com Subject: (urth) Eclipse question Date: 2 Oct 1998 05:38:37 OK, the "obvious" guess for what caused Apu-Punchau's eclipse is the ship. But, why would Tzadkiel bother to help Severian in such a situation? Remember, Severian has already brought the New Sun, and therefore has already insured the continuation of the next cycle... I could understand why Zak, Juturna, the Green Man, etc. would interfere in Severian's past prior to Severian's examination, but it seems pointless to interfere after Severian's role is complete (unless Severian has some additional destiny after UotNS that Gene Wolfe hasn't written about yet... Possibly in a short-sun connection). In fact, given that Apu-Punchau's people end up killing and entombing him anyway, and given that he's resurrected by the coming of the New Sun, the whole eclipse thing seems kind of pointless. Unless Apu-Punchau's leadership is itself one of the driving factors in his people's development that eventually plays itself out in their future history/evolution to New Sun times... Any thoughts? On an unrelated not, it seems clear that Pas is the avatar of Typhon/Piaton (unless there are other two-headed all-powerful monarchs floating around capable of building generation ships). But Pas seems to be a mostly benevolent figure, at least compared to Echidna, Scylla, etc... Whereas, Typhon was clearly a bastard... Guess you'd have to chalk that one up to programmer's error, heh. -Marc *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/