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From: John Bishop <jbishop@blkbrd.zko.dec.com> Subject: (urth) Re: Paradoxes [Digest urth.v024.n023] Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 14:36:50 It's not true that all time-travel (properly considered) has to lead to paradoxes. First, forward-in-time travel is non-paradoxical. The proof is that we are doing it right now! Vinge did a lot with fowards-only time travel, as have others (the oldest such story I know of is _Sleeping_Beauty_, but _Rip_van_Winkel_ is more aware of the difference between the "now" of the sleeper and the present). Second, in the many-worlds model, timelines split at "change points", either for all change points [to support quantuum mechanics] or just for "imposed" points due to time travellers; in that case, backwards time travel is non-paradoxical: The mad scientist Dr. Parah travels from 1999 to 2002 and grabs copies of the best-selling novels from a bookstore. He than travels back to 1999 and (having copied them) sends the manuscripts to publishers as his own work. The original author still wrote the book during 2000 in timeline 1, and though the book appears full-fledged (with no apparent author) in 1999 in timeline 2, that's not a paradox. Note that the theft from the bookstore only happens in timeline 1. "Many worlds" is prodigal of universes, but logically consistent. The movie "Sliding Doors" is an example. Third is the one I think more Wolfean: rather than a huge number of timelines, we have a universe in which history has near-repeats. Similiar causes, similiar effects: so there are ages of barbarism and of civilization, ages of discovery and of forgetting. Then you have a Severian, in one cycle, write a book but not read it. Another Severian (very much like the first) reads the book and may or may not write another, etc. See the discussion in Steven Pinker's _How_the_Mind_Works_ of how repetition in time (via generations) can mimic backwards or circular causation. -John Bishop *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/