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From: "Alex David Groce" <adgroce@eos.ncsu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Re: Adam and Atom Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 01:40:47 On Apr 3, 7:19pm, Roy C. Lackey wrote: > The Hierodules bow down to Severian. Why? He wouldn't even be on my long > list of candidates for world savior. The only reason given in the text is > his "perfect memory". When did that become a criterion for saviors, much > less the supreme one? Severian is a thoroughly despicable lout, cruel, > callous, stupid, woefully ignorant, a murderer, and has the morals of a dog. > Eata was a better man; he could rise above his upbringing and leave it > behind. Severian never does. Jonas was a better man, and he wasn't even a > man. Severian is blown about like a tumbleweed all through the Urth cycle, > seldom in control of his own life for any length of time, a perpetual victim > of circumstances. In that, he is very like Green of _There Are Doors_, but > without Green's innocence. Yes and no. Severian perfect saviour? Definitely not. (Hence Wolfe's various denials that Sev. is exactly a Christ figure.) But... Sure Severian is often a lout, and unlike Silk, the reader won't necessarily come to even -like- him. On the other hand, as I think PEACE and BOTNS would suggest, Wolfe probably doesn't see Severian as an anti-hero, but as like a real man. In this, I think there's a point--not an anti-hero, but a dark everyman. Wolfe protagonists are often murderous, cold, confused, or mad--from "Seven American Nights" to "The Death of Dr. Island" to "The Doctor of Death Island" to "Tracking Song." Sure, there are innocents--Tib in "The Eyeflash Miracles," and in a more complex but essentially innocent portrait, Silk (I very much like Alga's comparison to Dostoyevsky's Myshkin). But in general, Wolfe tends to focus on very flawed characters. A prime example would be the man in "The Ziggurat." However, I don't think he means us to reject these figures--rather, to see ourselves in them, with veins of dark and light. A picture of a (to sue the religious terms that are relevant) sinful but redeemable man. And I think it's clear that there IS moral growth in Severian throughout the BOTNS. The final talk with Palaemon, in my opinion, establishes that for the pre-Urth Severian, at least. -- "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free." - John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (adgroce@eos.ncsu.edu) Senior (Computer Science/Multidisciplinary Studies in Technology & Fiction) '98-99 NCSU AITP Student Chapter President 608 Charleston Road, Apt. 1E (919)-233-7366 http://www4.ncsu.edu/~adgroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/