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From: "Tony A. West" <gila@aax.mtci.ne.jp>
Subject: (urth)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:52:22 +0900
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Roy--- I really enjoyed your points. However, I disagree with you a bit =
on what you considered to be the most glaringly obvious paradox (or at =
least it brought up more questions):
And I'm not even going to mention the most glaring paradox. It takes
time for the white fountain to get to Urth's sun. It was on its way as =
far
back in time as Apu-Punchau. Therefore it had to have been in the =
heavens on
the day Sev was born. In fact, it was around for his whole life. Only it
wasn't. But it had to be. That's why I'm not going to mention it. <g>
--- this, in my estimation, can be attributed to the fact that the =
outcome of Sev's trial was yet to be determined... and in response to =
that we might ask how things like Apu-Punchau, the Claw, and the =
"legend" of the Conciliator were there (in Sev's past/coming of age) and =
the white fountain was not. All of these things could have been locked =
in place (in the "absolute time" past / Sev's "relative" future) by =
nothing more than Severian simply getting on Tzadkiel's ship. Once on, =
it seems to me that one is then privy to endless possibilities in time. =
But the white fountain might, indeed, have been the one thing that was =
not predetermined...
And what of the "pre-Sev" (absolute time) incidents actually hinge on =
Severian being the bringer of the white fountain?
Hope this doesn't sound too sophomoric!!! Been lurking for far too =
long, pondering the rather esoteric goings-on here....=20
Tony
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<DIV>Roy--- I really enjoyed your points. However, I disagree with =
you a=20
bit on what you considered to be the most glaringly obvious paradox (or =
at least=20
it brought up more questions):</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> And I'm not even going to mention the most =
glaring=20
paradox. It takes<BR>time for the white fountain to get to Urth's sun. =
It was on=20
its way as far<BR>back in time as Apu-Punchau. Therefore it had to have =
been in=20
the heavens on<BR>the day Sev was born. In fact, it was around for his =
whole=20
life. Only it<BR>wasn't. But it had to be. That's why I'm not going to =
mention=20
it. <g><BR></DIV>
<DIV>--- this, in my estimation, can be attributed to the fact that the =
outcome=20
of Sev's trial was yet to be determined... and in response to that we =
might ask=20
how things like Apu-Punchau, the Claw, and the "legend" of the =
Conciliator were there (in Sev's past/coming of age) and the white =
fountain was=20
not. All of these things could have been locked in place (in the=20
"absolute time" past / Sev's "relative" future) by =
nothing=20
more than Severian simply getting on Tzadkiel's ship. Once on, it =
seems to=20
me that one is then privy to endless possibilities in time. But =
the white=20
fountain might, indeed, have been the one thing that was not=20
predetermined...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And what of the "pre-Sev" (absolute time) incidents =
actually=20
hinge on Severian being the bringer of the white fountain?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hope this doesn't sound too sophomoric!!! Been lurking for =
far too=20
long, pondering the rather esoteric goings-on here.... </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Tony</DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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