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From: Carlos Martinho <carlosom71@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Deluge, Hierodules, Materialism
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 11:55:42 

Hi! It's my first post. This
materialism/supernaturalism question in TBONS and
is quite interesting, so...

I guess it's a mistake to attempt to put Wolfe's work
in one of these categories, or read it in a
"materalistic" or "supernaturalistic" view. The TBONS
universe is so old that every distintion of this kind
makes no more sense in the minds of the people who
live there, and it's a new approach to us -- a
approach that we have to grasp.

It's a universe where the scientific facts are seen
just as the magic of the Increate, after all. I guess
that the best aproach would be to see the Increate
as a god on the Spinozean sense: the Substance.

And, if all of us are tools of the Increate, why
couldn't Tzadikiel be some sort of high-high-high-tech
android and the archangel Gabriel at the same time? an
angel, after all, is just a messenger -- a tool -- of
the Increate...

"The nostalgia of things unknown, of lands forgotten or
 unfound, is upon me at times. Often I
 long for the gleam of yellow suns upon terraces
 of translucent azure marble, mocking the 
windless waters of lakes unfathomably calm"

Clark Ashton Smith, "Nostalgia of the Unknown"
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