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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: (urth) WATCHMEN (spoilers) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:07:17 I finally got around to reading Moore's WATCHMEN yesterday, and this morning got an email from a friend 2/3 through CLAW asking if the House Absolute is the "Satan's castle." This brought to mind a comparison I made last night. Veidt's plan, I think, marks him as a diabolical monster, arrogant and "evil" (not in the comic book sense of a man who thinks of himself as evil and glories in it, but in the sense that one might call Mao or Hitler evil). The others who say "well, it wasn't nice but it did the job" seem similarly tarred. However, Severian's similar "renewal of the Earth" from (apparently) less immediately threatening circumstances kills far more people but doesn't bother me morally. Severian is still very much a good guy, in my book. Does anyone else who's read WATCHMEN agree with my assessment of Veidt, and if so, what precisely (I think I can say in general) make Severian's case so different? (Or, since I know there are some on the list who see things differently, what makes Severian the same?) Also, I'm assuming that between the TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER and the Ozymandias comparison, Moore at least strongly implies the same judgment, although I think it's (nicely) ambiguous. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/