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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Dear Dorcas Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 18:42:03 Very interesting idea. On the plus side, I think we can safely place the idea of the vampire as one of Wolfe's major motifs, only subtly present in New Sun, more overt (and by the end one of the major mysteries) in Long Sun, and now becoming a central theme of Short Sun. Clearly, there is something more than is evident going on with Dorcas--there are enough hints and clues (especially in the strange scene(s) in Old Nessus) to suggest that an important and (even for Wolfe) difficult to elucidate mystery is at work. I also think that it is likely it casts Dorcas in a less innocent light than might be obvious--Severian's comment about bad metaphors is apropos, indeed. On the other hand, the vampire hypothesis seems to be very tenuous--and I think some of the dream interpretation elements linked in are highly questionable. The arguments based on Dorcas' dreams NOT being prescient are the root of the problem--I think that in BOTNS this is an unsafe assumption. Because of her interaction with Severian/the Claw and her resurrection, Dorcas is quite possibly on a little more "stuck" in time than Severian himself, who is a fountain of prophetic dreams. The dream of being"in a boat poled across a spectral lake" is most easily explained as a metaphor for Charon's search for her--the fact that she is with him indicates that somehow she has been right under his nose all along, and is a measure of the frustration of her watery death (and Caron's frustration). It is true that Dorcas should have no direct knowledge of this, but to assume that her dreams are not capable of penetrating things she has no normal way of knowing is, in the context of BOTNS, an unsafe assumption. Speaking of ages, I think it would be interesting to try and gauge the best estimate we can make of the ages of the various players in BOTNS. Roy's estimate for Dorcas is plausible, although I tend to suspect that she looks younger than she is, and this has lowered Agia's estimate (she also has some motive for (a) jealousy of someone younger and (b) trying to make her look like a mere child and thus perhaps undesirable to Severian). I think the other easiest people to peg are Severian and the Ag- twins (and little Severian, of course). "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/