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From: Michael Straight <straight@email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Fairy Tale logic Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:09:44 On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, [iso-8859-1] Nicholas Gevers wrote: > To illustrate this: many Lupines feel that, as a work > of SF, NEW SUN must be subject to scientific > explanation at every stage. [...] > But elsewhere, > Wolfe's conceptual logic is implicitly magical, as in > the intuitive symbolic construction of a fairy tale. I agree. I think this is one of Wolfe's tricks with TBOTNS. On the surface it looks like swords and magic fantasy. As you read more carefully, you're led to believe that there's a "scientific" explanation for everything, but I think ultimately there's too much that can't be explained that way: the relationship among Severian, the fountain, and the claw, the nature of the Undines (and Baldanders, maybe), Severian's dreams, as well as the things you mention (the mirrors, Typhon's weird two-headed scheme). If TBOTN were straightforward fantasy, the various unexplaned wonders could be dismissed as part of the genre, but by tricking us into reading the book as science fiction, the wonders are more striking, perhaps even questioning the adequacy of materialistic explanations for everything in our world. -Rostrum *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/