From: Jim Jordan <jbjordan@gnt.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Messianic
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:29:42 

At 11:28 PM 11/23/99 -0800, you wrote:
>Nutria wrote:
>
>> I think Wolfe's premise is that before the coming of Christ, the world was
>>ruled by violent and imperialistic empires.
>
>...As opposed to the last two thousand years of European and world history?

	Did it not write fairly clearly that after an initial change the Gospel
only gradually changes things? I thought I made that clear, from my
perspective.
>
>
>> But the Gospel is still there. It's underground -- where Severian
>>encounters the missionaries near the underground sea, where people are
>>buried -- catacombs? It survives in garbled form, as in Dr. Talos's play,
>>as it survives in garbled form in the Long Sun.
>
>Please explain to me how it survives, where we see evidence of this.

	I thought I just did. The reference to the Theoanthropos would be another
example. It's there, but buried.

Nutria


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