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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce@gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Strange Travellers Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 12:42:11 Allan Lloyd said: >In "The Ziggurat", for which Wolfe was criticized for his portayal of >the female characters, I thought that all the characters were reacting >in a realistically bitter way to their experiences. The bickering about >the divorse settlement carrying on while their children were being >attacked and abducted brought infinitely more depth to what could have >been a hackneyed UFO story. (By the way, did the narrator's treatment of >the childlike alien woman at the end bring a nasty shiver of suspicion >about his step-children's allegations of child abuse). Hmmm... Not for me. The behavior of the twins convinced me that the accusations were false--since they (unless, as John Kessel has proposed, the story is a "unreliable third-person" and we see things filtered through Emery's insanity) seem to be purely JAN's accusations, not the twins'. In fact, I always thought some of the criticism of Wolfe here was misplaced-- if you want to attack Wolfe for being misogynistic, it's not in the possible sympathy of the narrative for Emery's way of seeing things, but in the author's construction of Jan. Basically, Jan is the kind of person who might drive ME to say nasty things about women (and you'll notice that the most damning things Emery says, as in the car ride, he's quick to apply to men as well--and those words seem to me to be Wolfe's opinion, all right), so I can hardly blame Emery for being bitter (Jan, in fact, is the weak point in the story--I've met people not unlike her, both male and female, but such characters always come across as a bit too conveniently villanous--she's the non-pulp equivalent of the black hatted fellow twirling his moustache. On the other hand, to some extent, both types are reflections of a reality--i.e. "When I Was Ming the Merciless" or other Wolfe stories). In fact, Emery's treatment of Tamar strikes me as (A) in part a "parental" desire to protect, etc., but if every relationship that's ever involved such an instinct on one part or the other is indicative of child molestation, well, I'd be surprised and (B) part of his engineer's curiosity! THAT is the thing, it seems to me, that rescues Emery from himself in this story--initially the robbery takes away his instrument of suicide, but in the end what brings him 180 (or 360, perhaps!) from suicide to insane recklessness (in returning to the cabin with Brooke) is engineer's curiosity (or science-fiction reader's curiosity)--he wants to know what' really going on, even if it kills him. In that sense, he really is very much to blame for Brooke's death, although it seems to me that the psychological logic of the story is such that had he not returned to the cabin he'd have eventually found himself eating the barrel of a gun. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+@cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/