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From: Adam Stephanides <adamsteph@earthlink.net> Subject: (urth) Wolfe and Crowley, ancient and Renaissance Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 08:54:39 The Tarot discussion got me wondering whether Wolfe ever alludes to the Tarot. I couldn't recall his doing so at all. Then it occurred to me that not only does Wolfe ignore completely, iirc, the whole field of Renaissance magic which so fascinates Crowley; aside from the anomaly of THE DEVIL IN A FOREST, he pretty much ignores the whole of medieval and Renaissance Europe as a source of allusion or intellectual background (I would tend to see the Arthurian backdrop of CASTLEVIEW as a reference to myth in general, rather than medieval Europe in particular, and the same with the Irish legends in PEACE). This strikes me as being unusual for a self-confessed Catholic author and admirer of Chesterton. On the other hand, the classical Greco-Roman world is all over the place: the SOLDIER books, obviously, but also the pseudo-classical gods and goddesses in BOTLS and THERE ARE DOORS; the setting of BOTNS is modeled after the Byzantine Empire, which was contemporaneous with medieval Europe, but which had much less of a break with the ancient world; even the conjurations of the witch in THERE ARE DOORS and in Gold's fake Necronomicon in PEACE seemed to me closer to ancient Greco-Roman magic than to medieval or Renaissance magic, iirc. Of course, it's been a long time since I read most of these, and I don't have copies close at hand, so I could be completely wrong. On the other hand, while Crowley is fascinated by Renaissance magic, he doesn't ignore the classical world. In fact, the conflict between the two is a minor subtheme of LB: both Smoky and (or so it seems to me) Ariel Hawksquill have minds molded by the classics, though Ariel is of course aware of the Renaissance tradition; and both are made to unwillingly recognize the truth of the Renaissance magic worldview. --Adam *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/