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From: William Ansley <wansley@warwick.net> Subject: Re: (urth) Re: The Barnables Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:35:48 At 9:53 AM -0700 6/27/00, Adam Stephanides wrote: >William Ansley wrote: >> >> At 10:40 PM -0700 6/24/00, Adam Stephanides wrote: >> >Smoky "lived a lot in three different suburbs >> >with the same name in three different cities, and in each his relatives >> >called him by a different name--his own, his father's, and Smoky--which >> >last so suited his evanescence that he kept it." ("Anonymity," I, 1, p. >> >6 in Bantam TPB.) Which seems to mean that Smoky's father was not >> >called Evan (since his name was "different"), and suggests that Smoky >> >was first addressed as Smoky by his relatives and not by his father, >> >though Smoky may still be his middle name. >> >> I re-read the whole book recently and rather carefully and so feel >> fairly confident when I state that this is the only part of the book >> where the origin of the nickname "Smoky" is discussed. >> >> However, I disagree somewhat with your interpretation of the passage >> you quote above. I think that when Crowley says "his own, his >> father's, and Smoky" he means that the first set of relatives in the >> first city called him Evan, the second set Barnable (his father's >> name in the sense of "Mr. Barnable? That's my my father's name.") and >> the third set Smoky. > >I thought of this interpretation, but rejected it on the grounds that >the narrator's vocabulary is (or seems) straightforward, without >paraphrases of this type. My feeling is that had Crowley meant >"surname," he would have said "surname." And after all, "Barnable" is >as much Smoky's "own" name as "Evan" is. I do admit, though, that I >don't know why Smoky's relatives would have called him by his father's >first name. > >> it is >> much less likely (to me at least) that both Smoky and his father >> would allow their relatives to call Smoky Douglas (for example) if >> that was really his father's name. It would have caused a lot of >> unnecessary confusion, if nothing else. > >Actually, the sentence we're discussing refers to a time after Smoky's >father has died. Well, I guess that serves me right for bragging about how carefully I re-read LB. But I did read it carefully, it's just that my memory is shot. Even though the fact that Smoky's father was dead at the time completely vitiates my argument, I still find the use of "father's name" for surname to be less of a stretch than you do and feel my interpretation is at least admissible. But you may well be right. Relatives can become confused. William Ansley *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/