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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy@siebel.com> Subject: (urth) Pullman Again Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:42:03 Okay, so based on the discussion here I picked up a copy of "The Golden Compass" and finished it last night, and have drawn two equal and opposite conclusions: 1. This is a brilliant novel. 2. This is a lousy fantasy novel. More detail may perhaps be required. It is a marvellous _novel_. The characters and action are just plain overwhelming. The end of Chapter Two in particular, which pulls the rug totally out from under the reader's feet, but in such a _gentle_ way ("... because they were both old, and they were both anxious") utterly blew me away. This man can write. But he hasn't a clue about the logic of fantasy, at the small or at the large level. At the small level there are things like the naming of names. "Daemon." Okay, I understand that it's supposed to come from the Greek _daimonion_ and really only means "spirit," and that it's the person's soul (the way the armour is the bear's soul). But there's no _reason_ for calling them daemons; it's just an in-yer-face choice to irritate easily-irritated Christians. Ditto for "experimental theology"; it is neither, and the words just mislead. On a larger scale: does anyone, _can_ anyone, believe that in a world this different -- where every human has an externalized animus/anima, where bears are sentient, etc. -- the history of the world would be _similar_ enough that someone called John Calvin would become something called Pope of something called the Catholic Church? (I set aside, as irrelevant Christian-baiting the nature of "the Church" in this world.) The logic of fantasy just isn't there, and irritates me far more than the religious whomping. Nonetheless... it's a cracking good book. I just wish Pullman knew something about fantasy; then it could have been a _great_ book. --Dan'l *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/