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From: "Tony Ellis" <LittleSense@necronomicon.co.uk> Subject: (urth) Butterfly crush Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 09:43:51 +0100 Michael Straight wrote: > Well, if you're willing to admit it's illogical, I can't argue with you, Sorry, but I admitted no such thing. The 'logic' I said I wouldn't mind giving a miss was very deliberately placed in inverted commas. > but I think dismissing objections as "just the Crushed Butterfly theory" > is ridiculous. All of human history and society would be very, very, very > different if men died immediately after having intercourse. Different, certainly. "Very, very, very different" is conjecture. Would the changes you describe necessarily all work in the same direction, and shift history onto a completely different track, or would half of them cancel out the other half, and the overall shape of history remain more or less the same? And that's just the Time Is A River theory. How about the Many Universes theory, where every quantum event since the big bang may have created another reality, or a potential reality? In that case, all Wolfe is doing is showing us one of the more interesting, lower probability worlds. I don't see how dismissing two of these theories in favour of a third, when in fact no one knows what happens when human history is altered, has anything to do with logic at all. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/