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From: James Jordan <jbjordan4@home.com> Subject: Re: (urth) In Glory Like Their Star, initial reading Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:00:58 This looks promising. Only two notes: At 11:04 AM 9/19/2001 +0100, Joshua wrote: >'skun' This seems to be the only made-up word in the story. Why? A variant of 'sun'? Somehow? >'(The natives) speak for a long time when they have begun' and the narrator >is also 'unable to control (his own) loquacity.' This implies similarity on >another level. See below for my idea with respect to this other level. I took the loquacity of the natives to indicate ritual. They approach this "god" with a continual stream of repeated phrases. Also, from what I recall, their repeated phrases were requests for gifts, which resembles pagan religion: bring your gifts/bribes and feed your gods and ask them over and over for benefits. The Biblical or Judeo-Christian notion of sacrifice is rather different: self-killing by proxy as a confession of guilt and a plea for mercy. Requests for benefits come afterwards, and Jesus said not to be overly repetitious, and the psalms are quite unrepetitious in form. Thus, I took it that a kind of pagan religion was being pictured by Wolfe. Nutria *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/