From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: RE: (urth) For Jerry- a response Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 08:18:23 -0800 Chiming in - Marc, while I find a lot of attraction in your theory that Blue/Green is a much older Ushas/Lune (particularly the implicit identity of the Mother and Scylla-on-Urth), it just isn't plausible for a largish variety of reasons. Probably the most significant of these, for me, is that if we take the more-or-less canonical set of assumptions about the voyage of the _Whorl_ (discussed in some detail in the archives by Mantis and others), the timelines are just too _neat_ to drop: but there are also the questions of Greenish gravity (despite the tower-climbing scene, I believe that lunar-type gravity would warrant some pretty direct observation by a character coming from urth-type gravity), of the apparent visibility of Urth's red sun in the Bluvian sky, of the doubled body parts of Bluvian life forms*, etc., etc. ----- * but not Greenish life forms? I don't recall enough description of other Greenish beasties, but it seems pretty clear that the inhumi, at least, are four-limbed. Though ... h'mmm. Is it at any point stated clearly that the inhumi were equally successful at masquerading as Neighbors? ----- Anyway, Marc, I think most of your other hypotheses about tBotSS work just as well (or as poorly; I'm still sceptical-but- interested, with the observation that there aren't very many overall models of this Book on display as yet) without trying to force identity of Blue with Urth, Green with Lune. And, in the end, it _does_ feel forced: which is the problem. In general, when you have a "good" model of one of Wolfe's texts, it doesn't feel forced. --Blattid --