From: StoneOx17@aol.com
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 11:02:00 EDT
Subject: Re: (urth) Prehsitoric Starcrossers 


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Tony Ellis writes:

> Jeff Wilson wrote:
> >How do you explain the remarkable similarity of form and the ability
> >to interbreed, then?

> Remarkable similarity of form to, and ability to interbreed with, human
> beings, you mean? The explanation is that abos -are- human beings. They are
> the descendants of prehistoric colonists from Earth. Wolfe goes out of his
> way to prime us with this idea in all three novellas in 5HC, and that's 
good
> enough for me.

To throw mud into already murky waters, why is everybody assuming 
that the abos can interbreed with humans?  I don't believe that Roy 
Trenchard is Victor's father.  I don't have my copy of 5HC handy, but 
somewhere in Marsch's interview of Roy, Roy says (paraphrasing 
from memory) that Marsch shouldn't believe the ugly rumors, and 
that he was married to Victor's mother when Victor was born.  My 
contention is that he is misunderstanding the rumors.

This gives another way in which Veil's hypothesis might be true.  
After the war with the original French colonists, all the records were
lost, so the "French" women the next wave of colonists married 
might have mostly been abos.  If their children are all abos, and the
girls marry humans, eventually the whole Annese population will 
become abos.  This hypothesis dovetails nicely with the speculation
I've seen in this list that, because of the genetic experiments at la 
maison du chien, the population of Sainte Croix is becoming more
and more like No. 5 and Maitre.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that, unlike Peace (where
I think there's some real truth at the heart of the labyrinth), 5HC is
one of those optical illusions where you either see two vases or a
face, but there's no way to tell which.

Thanks,

Peter S.


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Tony Ellis writes:



> Jeff Wilson wrote:

> >How do you explain the remarkable similarity of form and the ability

> >to interbreed, then?



> Remarkable similarity of form to, and ability to interbreed with, human

> beings, you mean? The explanation is that abos -are- human beings. They are

> the descendants of prehistoric colonists from Earth. Wolfe goes out of his

> way to prime us with this idea in all three novellas in 5HC, and that's good

> enough for me.



To throw mud into already murky waters, why is everybody assuming 

that the abos can interbreed with humans?  I don't believe that Roy 

Trenchard is Victor's father.  I don't have my copy of 5HC handy, but 

somewhere in Marsch's interview of Roy, Roy says (paraphrasing 

from memory) that Marsch shouldn't believe the ugly rumors, and 

that he was married to Victor's mother when Victor was born.  My 

contention is that he is misunderstanding the rumors.



This gives another way in which Veil's hypothesis might be true.  

After the war with the original French colonists, all the records were

lost, so the "French" women the next wave of colonists married 

might have mostly been abos.  If their children are all abos, and the

girls marry humans, eventually the whole Annese population will 

become abos.  This hypothesis dovetails nicely with the speculation

I've seen in this list that, because of the genetic experiments at la 

maison du chien, the population of Sainte Croix is becoming more

and more like No. 5 and Maitre.



I'm becoming more and more convinced that, unlike Peace (where

I think there's some real truth at the heart of the labyrinth), 5HC is

one of those optical illusions where you either see two vases or a

face, but there's no way to tell which.



Thanks,



Peter S.

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