From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: RE: (urth) Lupine Humor: A Challenge Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:53:35 -0700 POSSIBLE SPOILERS for "Under Hill" if you haven't read it yet. Nacre counterchallenged: > There appear to be at least three jokes in > "Under Hill"; as it's brand new, I leave it > to you all to find them. Well, there's some pretty sad Chinese-name-jokes of the level of the infamous "How Hi is a Chinaman". (I'd have guess that "Gifflet le Fils de Do" was something similar but nothing came to mind and a quick search turned up this from the Prose Merlin: And Kay served at tables as was reson, and two yonge knyghtes of grete prowesse and were sones to two casteleins -- that oon was cleped Lucas the Boteler, and that other Gifflet, the sone of Doo of Cardoell, which hadde be maister forester to Uterpendragon. And he also turns up in Percivale and other old Arthurian texts, so that's just a straightforward name reference.) I'd be willing to bet that there was something funny hiding here: The princess lowered her eyes in shame. "There is also my chop - my seal, perhaps? Has this humble one committed some risible error, my lord?" but I'm darned if I can figure it out. my name's 12BFW-CY-, by the way, and I come from the remote future. H'mmm. That's a Gernsbackian joke -- a reference to "Ralph 124C41+" The "+" in Ralph's name was a reference to his exceptionally high intelligence, wasn't it? Not sure what to make of the mid-name -; possibly doubleyou minus cee would be tee, so 12BFTY-. Not much better... At any rate, looking at the story as a while, we see a smug, Gernsbackian superscientist is being outwitted by a "man of the Dark Ages who show[s] a glimmer of intelligence," which I think is kind of nice. It's not one of Wolfe's masterpieces by a long shot, but I like it. --Blattid --