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From: "Robert Borski"Subject: Re: (urth) Base 9 on the Whorl? Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 01:54:09 0500 hartshorn having attempted to throttle my base 9 theory thusly: "The children are in their childish way making mistakes." "By the way 7 + 17 = 25 in base 9" Yes. But if indeed the children are making mistakes, they are making the less likely one. 29  19 in base 10 is almost impossible to get wronga like number minus another like number has to be zeroit's about the easiest calculation you can make and among the first we learn as childrenespecially since we have ten fingers and ten toes to help abacus our solution. But a calculation in base 9 of 7 + 17 is much more difficult, even for adults; you need to figure out (or memorize by rote) that the number 17 only contains 16 integers (and yes I know in base 9 the number 17 contains by definition 17 integers, but you know what I mean), add the 7 + 16 and get 23, then readjust to compensate out of base 10 (as I did not) for the missing 10 and 20 in the final tallying. Plus as in base 10 there may be special "rules" of 9 (e.g., any large number whose individual numbers add up to nine or a number that can be reduced to nine is divisible by nine), only in this case the rule would take on additional religious significance, something akin to "In this column here, children, like minus like always equals ninebecause as we know the Nine can never truly be reduced. Bless Pas, Echidna, and their children." I'll also bet that if you ask first graders to subtract 19 from 29, they will almost always get it right; whereas if you ask most adults to add 7 + 17 in base 9, they will frequently get it wrong. In other words I stand by my original premise: is it possible base 9 is being used on the Whorl? Robert Borski 