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From: "James Wynn" 
Subject: RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly  Trinity
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:54:28 -0500

I seem to recall an expansion theory in which the universe eternally
expands, collapses, and expands again in an unending cycle of big bangs and
big gnabs. According to this theory, each universe will would be precisely
(or *almost* precisely) like the ones preceding it because it started the
same way. I understand this theory is now out-of-favor with recent evidence
that the universe cannot ultimately collapse. But it wouldn't have been at
the time of writing.

This could reconcile Wolfe's claim with the familiar references in the

But in my heart of hearts I believe Wolfe concocted this explanation to
rescue himself from having to constantly justify theologically everything in
the BOTNS. I DO recall that he denied Severian is Christ. He said he was a
"Christ figure", but that's merely a literary term.


-----Original Message-----
From: James Jordan [mailto:jbjordan4@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:55 AM
To: urth@urth.net
Subject: Re: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly

JJ: This universe that you sought in Briah are part of it. Is that our
universe? Or is that a universe that resurrected saints have set up in the
world to come as part of the cities that they made?
GW: No. I thought of it as a long past universe. Something that we are
repeating rather than something that we are.


That was my source.

Nutria (JJ)



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