From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: RE: (urth) Loyal to the Group of Seventeen Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:47:12 -0700 Bob King wrote... H'mmm. Bob, your long one-line paragraphs are getting cut off. Perhaps you can use the occasional carriage-return/line-feed? > I see a connection with Newspeak here, but more in the sense > that Wolfe is rejecting Orwell's pessimism (if I'm > interpreting him correctly) about the human mind's ability to > overcome totalitarianism. Well, yeah, I agree with that, at least; Orwell's totalitarian state was involved in a pragmatic application of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis that suggests that our perceptions of reality are defined and delimited by our language; the Group of Seventeen seem to be doing much the same thing. Nonetheless, I hold and insist that the more direct application of "Correct Thought" is to the Mao-quoting habits of Chinese Communists, especially in the '60s and '70s. I wonder also if the choice of the number seventeen is significant -- perhaps a sort of sideways reference to another stfnal instantiation of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis. I refer, of course to Samuel R. Delany's novel in which a language with no words for "I" and "You" plays a major role -- Babel-17. --Blattid You are trapped in that bright moment when you learned your doom --