Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 12:31:33 -0500
From: James Jordan 
Subject: Re: (urth) Wolfe and Eusebius

At 11:25 AM 6/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>The recent talk about Chadwick's "History of the Early Church" made me think
>of another Church history book that I'm convinced is sitting on Wolfe's
>shelf at this moment:
>Eusebius' "Historia Ecclesiastica" ("History of the Church").

         Right on the money. I cannot imagine you are wrong about thi.


>A search of the Urth lists revealed that it has already been shown here that
>Severian's name comes from a later name of the Encratites (a 2nd century
>Gnostic sect). But I didn't see anyone note that the varied and ingenious
>tortures of Christians in Gaul under Marcus Aurelius (Book 6) leads one to
>think of the Torturers Guild.

         Yes, and we do have quotations from Aurelius in Silk's book, no? 
And Severian founded the Torturers, and he's emperor. But Wolfe does not 
like the Torturers, and Severian is also a Christian of some sort. More 
conflation and ambiguity from Wolfe. Severian is Mr. Imperfect!
         I agree with alga (again! what's happening here, alga?): a great 
find and contribution to the discussion.

Nutria



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