Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:35:45 -0500
From: James Jordan 
Subject: Re: (urth) Silk-23 skidooby

         I tend to agree with you. The Neighbor said Silk's spirit was 
dying, not that it was dead. I've assumed Silk-43 continued on, but rather 
dormant and wounded, while Horn ran the body. A new infusion via Pig would 
most likely be Passilk-42, as you noted, and if Wolfe is playing with this, 
it might factor in to the greater political wisdom Silkhorn shows after his 
return to Blue. Silk-43 had not been a successful leader on the Whorl. 
Silkhorn on Blue is quite successful, perhaps as a result of combining 
wisdom both from his failures as Ur-Silk and what he had experienced as 
part of Good-Pas. Something to consider.

Nutria

At 11:47 AM 7/16/2002 -0400, Rostrum wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Michael Andre-Driussi wrote:
>
> > Well, since in this reading I take it as Horn alone who sees Hyacinth dead
> > (Silk-43 being completely gone), it is Horn who sees her.  Silk-23 comes
> > later, via the eye transfer; and Silk-23 would be even more shocked and
> > distraught over the memory (I'm assuming that Horn and Silk-23 can access
> > the memories of Horn) than Horn, who was the actual witness.
>
>I don't think this works.  For one thing, the only way I can swallow Horn
>steadfastly refusing to acknowledge the obvious during his return to the
>Whorl (that he is a spirit posessing Silk's body - an almost commonplace
>idea given Horn's experiences) is that Silk himself is preventing it in
>order to avoid facing up to Hyacinth's death.
>
>For another, it only works if Pas and the Neighbors are in league
>together, because by your "sinister" reading, the Neighbors wipe Silk-43
>and then later Pas completes the plan by engineering the reboot with
>Silk-23.
>
>Another:  This contradicts your "Silkhorn gets some Silk from Pig after
>restoring his sight" theory.  Because Pig was posessed fairly recently,
>and not by pure Silk, but Passilk-42, or maybe Passilk-43 minus a few
>months (weeks?).  The only source of pure, unadulterated Silk-23 would be
>from the tape backups on mainframe.
>
>Another:  It really undermines the whole healing of Silk theme.  Silk-23
>coming to terms with the fact that he's suddenly older and a widower seems
>much less interesting than Silk-43 overcoming his grief.
>
>Another:  Silk-23, recorded when Silk was on the airship, feeling
>depressed, suddenly finding himself older and Hyacinth dead -- we ought to
>see a major shift in Silk's personality between when he says goodbye to
>Pig and when at the end when he gets on Hari Mau's lander.  (Maybe the
>kids didn't understand what had happened and didn't know to depict it?)
>
>-Rostrum
>
>
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