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From: "David A Baird"Subject: Re: (urth) First Mail Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 20:58:22 +0200 Thanks Mantis I read TFHOCerberud just before restarting TBOFNS and need to read it again - is that a cpmplex plot or what!? I love the way Wolfe approaches his subject with ambiguity, it leaves a lot of room for thought on the part of the reader but does take some concentration :-) Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: RE: (urth) First Mail > Mantis replied... > > > Hello there Dave Baird, and welcome aboard! > > Second that. > > > >So, a bit of guidance from those of you that know better than I - what > is > > >the complete list of books related and what should I read next? > > > Yay, an easy question! > > Actually two questions, of which only the first is "easy" (and even that > somewhat quibblesome): > > > 1) THE BOOK OF THE NEW SUN > > 2) THE URTH OF THE NEW SUN > > 3) THE BOOK OF THE LONG SUN (four volumes) > > 4) THE BOOK OF THE SHORT SUN (three volumes) > > ... plus various short stories scattered across a variety of > anthologies, collections and magazines ... > > ... plus THE FIFTH HEAD OF CERBERUS, which, if very unlikely to > be set in the same universe, is at least thematically related to > the Books of the Sun, a/k/a the Lupiverse, a/k/a the Briah > Cycle ... > > ... none of which, however, addresses Dave's _second_ question, > "what should [he] read next?" > > Dave, if you want to continue with the main line of the Lupiverse, > you should definitely move on to the Books of the Long Sun and the > Short Sun, in that order. > > tBotLS is set in the same universe, but in terms of plot, is > related only tangentially to the adventures of Severian. > > tBotSS is a direct sequel to tBotLS, and also relates more > directly to tBotNS in terms of plot than does its predecessor. > > (At least one short story, "The Map," deals with a character > from New Sun. At least one, "The Night Chough," deals with a > character from Long/Short. I believe -- though I haven't > tracked all of them down -- that the other short stories set > in the Lupiverse are simply that -- "set in the same universe.") > > ***HOWEVER***, this assumes that "what should I read next" is > a simple question of continuing in the same universe. Wolfe has > written a number of other novels ranging from "superb" to "Huh? > What was _that_?" (and one which he himself considers an utter > stinkeroo and will not allow to be reprinted, OPERATION ARES, > though I rather like it). Which descriptions fit which of these > novels is a matter of some debate. > > If you want to branch out of the Briah Cycle, I would highly > recommend either the short story collection, "THE ISLAND OF > DOCTOR DEATH AND OTHER STORIES" AND OTHER STORIES, or the > novels FREE LIVE FREE and PEACE. Others will have other > ideas on the subject. > > --Blattid > > > -- > > --