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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" 
Subject: RE: (urth) arcologies like mountains
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 11:53:17 -0700

Crush quoted David and said...

> > ... the Hieros/Hierogrammates/Hierodules are creations from 
> > Urths past and now they want the new sun so that Urth can
> > regain it's glory and then in turn recreate them again. 100K
> > years seems too few for such a cycle.

> Wait a minute. I don't think I'm understanding this point. 
> What possible limitations of time could the Hieros offer?
> They go backwards in Time, go outside of Time, drop in on
> Time. I presumed that Hieros were created in a future far
> beyond the Age of the BothNS.

Well, while you're right that the Hieros don't help us set up 
any kind of time limits, it's a _little_ more complicated than
that -- it's established in UotNS that the Hieros are from an
"earlier" cycle of the universe. If there is any meaningful
time-relationship at all (and I question this, since "time"
is only a meaningful measurement within a given spacetime),
it's to be measured in Sagans of years.


I would while away the hours smoking all the flowers and shooting up the


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