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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:51:21 -0500
From: James Jordan 
Subject: RE: (urth) Another Avern for you

At 01:45 PM 7/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>"Another avern for you", said Agilus
> >>>Nutria wrote:
> >>>
> >>>... "Ascian" ... actually means "shadowless."
> >>> Shadowless, directly under the sun, seems to
> >>>me a good symbol for a timeless philosophical
> >>>worldview.
>Hmmm. I thought they were "shadowless" because they were in continuous dark?
>Although, no doubt they interpreted it the other way. But the Ascians are
>under the control Erebus (Erebus according to Hesiod is the "darkness of

         Interesting point. But doesn't the text make is clear that they 
are from the equator, and directly under the sun, and that is the basic 
meaning of Ascian?

>Severian is the New Sun, the roses (which are sun symbols) represent life,
>nenuphars whose roots extend to the darkness of the water represent death.

         Absolutely. I would see this as true versus false sun.
         But I'm certainly open to correction.



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