Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:51:21 -0500
From: James Jordan 
Subject: RE: (urth) Another Avern for you

At 01:45 PM 7/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>"Another avern for you", said Agilus
>
> >>>Nutria wrote:
> >>>
> >>>... "Ascian" ... actually means "shadowless."
> >>> Shadowless, directly under the sun, seems to
> >>>me a good symbol for a timeless philosophical
> >>>worldview.
>
>Hmmm. I thought they were "shadowless" because they were in continuous dark?
>Although, no doubt they interpreted it the other way. But the Ascians are
>under the control Erebus (Erebus according to Hesiod is the "darkness of
>Tartaros")

         Interesting point. But doesn't the text make is clear that they 
are from the equator, and directly under the sun, and that is the basic 
meaning of Ascian?


>Severian is the New Sun, the roses (which are sun symbols) represent life,
>nenuphars whose roots extend to the darkness of the water represent death.

         Absolutely. I would see this as true versus false sun.
         But I'm certainly open to correction.

Nutria


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