From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: RE: (urth) annoying silliness Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:14:37 -0700 Sigh. Okay, let me clarify things here ... I believe my original statement was: > I was quite certain, reading the utterances of Loyal > to the Group of Seventeen, that Wolfe was pointing his > barb at Maoism and the "Little-read Book." Others, I > have learned on this list, have been equally certain > that Wolfe is satirizing Orwell's "Newspeak," which I > find simply implausible. Okay, that was way too strong ... I think I had better have said that I find it implausible that "Newspeak" was the primary target of the satire. I frankly feel that the insistence that it _is_, is an example of the parochialism of the SF community; there is (imho) extremely powerful evidence, both biographical and stylistic, for Maoist-style Communism as the primary target. I would also dispute one point of facticity in Mantis' latest post on this subject: > Was blattid aware that Mao's little red book had not > historically been used across an entire culture the way > that it had been used, anecdotally, by a couple of > Berkeleyites in the 70s? Yes, he was aware (a relief, > in a sense). I said no such thing, nor am I convinced by any means that you are correct here. It is my understanding that a major aspect of Chinese Communist culture of the later Mao years, and probably through the next few years after his death, _was_ the frequent quoting of Mao. I am unwilling to do the research to "prove" this right now, but will stick to my guns on the point unless and until strong counterevidence is posed; I admit this is stubbornness on my part, but it's stubbornness based on my memory of the period. --Blattid --