From: "Alice K. Turner"
Subject: Re: (urth) God in the Machine Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:42:32 -0400 From Matthew: And a persistant one: Adam lay ybounden, Bounden in a bond, [snip] A perfectly lovely old lay. I was lucky enough to hear this sung as a round once by the Princeton Glee Club with some extraordinarily high and pure male voices. My eyes tear, just remembering. Meanwhile, Crush, I perfectly agree with you that Typhon is consciously presented in LS as the Demiurge, the false god who believes (both sincerely and cynically, in the modern way) that he is the only creator god of the Whorl. And the Outsider is (if not a hallucination!) the true god. And in SS, angels (archons)=Neighbors (Of course Zak and the gang are also angels), inhumi=demons (with the only excuse for all the histrionics at the end being an anti-Origen slant that demons cannot be saved, which I deplore critically but understand as fitting into orthodoxy), all that, yadda, yadda. I am truly sorry that Wolfe could not find a Sophia figure--Scylla in no way cuts it despite all that last-book sentimentality about her poor little real self--but I do not think he is a real Gnostic; he is once again too orthodox to dwell on such a powerful heresy. Not to mention being a little weak with female characters, as has been noted. Also, technically it would have been awkward; I doubt that Wolfe had such a vast contraption in mind when, working his way through these series, he first conceived of Typhon as a false god. -alga --