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Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:36:17 -0600
Subject: Re: (urth) Gnostic Wolfe
From: Adam Stephanides 

on 11/4/02 12:22 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes at ddanehy@siebel.com wrote:

> Part of the issue, of course, is that the Outsider is
> Outside because the gods of the Whorl deliberately
> shut him out -- tried to erase all memory of him when
> they reprogrammed the original Cargo. But memory of the
> "long sun Whorl" religion, in trace form, remained, and
> became part of the Writings, in the few references to
> the Outsider ... This implies, incidentally, that the
> Writings were not presented to the people of Viron
> already-written by Scylla or some other god, but were
> set down by them in the early days ...

I see some problems with this:

1) Did Typhon, then, fail to provide scriptures for his invented religion?
If so, why?  If not, what happened to them?

2) Iirc, the Writings were a melange of quotes from a variety of sources;
James Jordan mentioned "Marcus Aurelius in the Chrasmological writings" in
another post.  I could see Wolfe positing that traces of the true religion
survived all efforts by Typhon to erase it; that he would have posited the
same thing for Marcus Aurelius seems less likely.

3) Assuming that you are correct about the Writings' origin, if Pas et al
did not want people to worship or remember the Outsider, why didn't they
announce that the parts of the Writings mentioning the Outsider were
heretical and should be removed?



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