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From: "Don Doggett" 
Subject: Re: (urth) Blue as Ushas - long
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 22:06:35 -0800

Hi Roy! You wrote:

"Unless you are suggesting that Typhon launched the _Whorl_ for his own
reasons that had nothing to do with a planned return to either Urth or
Ushas--that if it did return to the planet from which it was launched, it
did so by accident or third-party design--then I don't see how Blue can be

Bingo!  That's precisely my argument.  Typhon is the biggest jerk in the
universe.  I think that's the reason the Whorl leaves at the end of SS.  Pas
realizes he's been had; that all he's done is taken one big walk around the
block. Heh heh heh.

You also say:

"Remember that David Hartwell apparently thought that the original four
volumes of the NS needed some sort of coda, which led Wolfe to write URTH. I
don't know, but I suspect, that Wolfe felt some obligation to tie the LS and
SS series to NS. Wolfe corresponds with various members of this list, has
answered questions submitted by list members about the LS books, and was
probably aware before he wrote it that many of his most faithful readers
*wanted* Sev to make an appearance in SS. I feel almost certain that the
business about Sev's "sister" in SS was a direct bow in this general

I like to think that Wolfe wouldn't pander to the crowd (forgive the harsh
phrasing but it seems the most apt) and as I said before I don't believe it,
but of course it's possible.

and last:

"Or are you suggesting that the Blue of Horn's day was in the far future of
the Ushas that Sev saw? That a new civilization (Neighbors) had risen from
the mud of Urth-come-Ushas, that the new civilization had fallen to ruin,
both on Ushas and Lune, and abandoned both worlds for greener pastures
around another star?"

Bullseye once again.  Though I'm honestly not sure where the Neighbors have



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