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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 19:18:25 +0000 (GMT)
From: Josh Geller 
Subject: RE: (urth) Silk's perception of time

I greet the Rider of the Mouse!

On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> Don Dogget wrote:

>> [...]
>> what we are saying is that God exists in the past, present,
>> and future simultaneously and without differentiation.  God
>> isn't in the past, seeing the future, or in the future,
>> seeing the past.  God is always NOW.

> Actually, I think this slightly reverses the usual understanding
> of the relationship between God-in-Eternity and Time. I would
> not say that God "is always NOW"; rather, I would say that God
> perceives past, present, and future as always-already
> simultaneously present before God. To say that God is NOW almost
> seems to restrict God, to place God in the NOW, whereas I posit
> that we want to say that no moment contains or can contain God.

Here's one (somewhat simplified) way of looking at it:

Human people are creatures which exist in three dimensions. and are
in involuntary motion in a fourth dimension. This motion is what we call
time. The plenum of parallel Worlds can be conceived as a plane
perpendicular to this fourth dimension.

According to this system, the angels (or small-g gods, however you
prefer) exist in four dimensions, are free to move in two others, and are
in involuntary motion in a seventh.  The two dimensions that they are free
to move in correspond to the dimensions of the time-plane mentioned above.

Maybe (probably) there are levels beyond this.

Big-G God is always NOW (as Dan'l puts it) to all of this. The angels
don't really know all that much more about it than human people do. The
angel's angels (assuming there are such) don't know any more about it
either and so on.

All of these conceptions are not-God. God is beyond conception.

This is, of course, all my own opinions based mostly on personal research.



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