Subject: RE: (urth) whorl in orbit Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:22:59 -0700 From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
> Against the "Whorl has been in orbit for thirty years"=20 > possibly in the text and possibly said by Wolfe in an=20 > interview I lay down my "longfather, culture hero of Ushas=20 > who left for the stars" entry in Lexicon Urthus p.184 - 185. =20 Okay, I don't have a copy of the Lex, so I don't know what it says there ... but ... "longfather" is simply an antique word for a male ancestor distant enough that you can't (or don't=20 want to bother) counting out the "greats" -- typically one who plays a patronymic or patriarchal role in the family history; Abraham would be "longfather" to the Jews. (Note that this does not exclude the concept of "culture hero," but does not require it.) The only modern use of the word I know outside of Wolfe is -- who's surprised? -- Tolkien, who refers somewhere to the "longfathers of the Dwarves." > Heck, for all I know, this is some elaborate=20 > joke by Wolfe, and the real narrator of the whole 12 book=20 > series is L. Ron Hubbard. Oh, great, now you've gone and spoilt it all ... trying to=20 lay engrams on us, eh? --Dan'l --