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From: "Don Doggett"Subject: (urth) Quetzal and Noah's Ark Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 12:56:00 -0800 Hi everyone, All this discussion about Quetzal and his place on the Whorl got me digging around on Google and, while I didn't find quite what I was looking for (mythic references to a stowaway snake) I found some things far more interesting. I'm not sure how relevant they are but they are certainly interesting. Here's a sample: "THE RESTORATION UNDERWAY: EVIDENCE OF CHAOS Legends of Central America subsequently refer to Noah as Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent that sailed off into the East where the rising sun ate him up. That is, as the sun arose Noah's Ark disappeared over the eastern horizon without them, leaving the people behind in the midst of earthquakes, tidal waves, and chaos as the earth continued to convulse and ocean bottoms sank to swallow up the flood waters. The restoration was now indeed underway. Note: Noah had absolutely no control over his great raft of a city. Therefore, when a portion of the Atlantic Ocean bottom, for example, sank, the waves and currents created easily sucked Noah's great raft along Eastward like a cork in a stream. However, those left behind in the Americas knew that Noah had a way with GOD; so, they blamed Noah for leaving without them. Thus, the name Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent. " This is from www.geocities.com/WallStreet/Floor/7845/BRIANSANNES/mountararat.html It's a Mormon site and I don't have much use for Mormon biblical scholarship but it doesn't seem like dubious scholarship ever stopped Wolfe from exploring an interesting/entertaining idea. This next site is interesting for it's relevance to Crush's Quetzal/Dionysus theory. Not only does it tie these two together but it also ties them both into Noah and Hindu mythology. What?! It's www.viewzone.com/noah.story.html The third one I found of interest was www.mexconnect.com/mex_/travel/jblack/jbnahua2.html This one is cool because of the reference to the importance of maize. Curious, considering the importance of corn in SS. I found all of these by entering "Noah's ark" and "Quetzal" or "Quetzalcoatl" in the search engine and there are tons more pages which I don't have the time or inclination to sift through. But have fun. Don --