From: "Roy C. Lackey"
Subject: (urth) Blue still ain't Ushas Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:42:16 -0600 I argued, last spring, that Blue is not Ushas. If those arguments weren't heeded then, there's no point in repeating them now. Those arguments were from the text and/or Physics, so I don't know how it can be claimed "all your reasons for Urth not being Blue AREN'T valid ones", as was recently stated here. Be that as it may, the mass of textual evidence against Blue being Urth/Ushas overwhelms the theory that it is. I have also argued that Silkhorn's astral travel is spatial, not temporal. The only text-based argument for astral time-travel that I am aware of is the appearance of Silk and Oreb in Salica's story. That is evidence that the *story* was changed, just as Fava's story was influenced by Silkhorn, not that the past had been changed. Proponents of the Blue=Urth/Ushas theory have also claimed that the Neighbors were far-future descendents of the people who repopulated Urth after it became Ushas. Where the Green Man fits into that evolution, I don't know. At any rate, the text contradicts the theory that the Neighbors were some future evolutionary stage of humanity on Blushas. When Silkhorn went to ruined Nessus with Rigoglio and others, he spoke to Mora: ------------------------------------ "I was trapped in a pit in a ruined city of the Vanished People once," I remarked to Mora. "Have I ever told you about that?" She shook her head. "I've been thinking about it, and about the City of the Inhumi on Green. Those were ruins left by the Neighbors' ancient race; these were left by ours, I believe--we are as ancient as they, or nearly." (IGJ, 315) ------------------------------------- This means that humans and Neighbors are roughly of equal antiquity, and implies that the Neighbors' race may even be *older* than humankind. Elsewhere it is stated that humans and Neighbors were molded by the Outsider from different soils. If the text means anything to this argument, then the above quote is a dagger in the Blushas theory. -Roy --