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From: "Andrew Bollen" 
Subject: Re: (urth) for andrew - silk surfaces because horn leaves
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 01:50:22 +1100

Marc wrote:

> I MUST disagree with Andrew on Babbie going into Horn - the reason that
> surfaces in this scene is because Horn wants to leave and be done with his
> story - that's why he says goodbye under that big tree.
> He leaves, but the
> tree sends him into Babbie.

But SilkHorn saying goodbye to Nettle etc under the tree happens *after* the
calling episode.

> Re-read the end of Return to the Whorl where
> Babbie is present in the astral visit - he continually points to his
> saying "huh-huh-huh" and hugs Horn's son vigorously, not letting him go
> looking at him protectively.  This is the action of a father seeing his
> but his son doesn't recognize him.

A problem with this remains: why can Scylla-spirit-in-Oreb articulate words,
where Horn-spirit-in-Babbie cannot? I can buy a little of this, though:
Babbie has been in Horn on my reading, so maybe some Horniness sticks?

> Silk comes to the fore here - the voice in narration changes right after
> says goodbye.

But (textually, at least), the meeting in the forest happens immediately
after the goodbye.

> Remember that Horn has to ride a beast with
> three horns, Babbie.

But SilkHorn says explicitly in his account of the first meeting with Mucor
and Marble (OBW, end Ch 3): "On Green I rode a three-horned beast, as
Maytera foresaw. Indeed, I was riding it at the time I was wounded fatally."


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