From: "James Wynn"
Subject: RE: (urth) 5HoC + The Long Sun Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:01:52 -0600 Shell responded to Crush: Of course, many of parallel themes (the nature of identity is a biggie) that they share appear in many Wolfe works, so his predilection to explore such themes could account for it, but, as you pointed out, there are too many factual similarities simply to chalk it up to "well, Wolfe writes about identity a lot." Crush answers: But LS/SS and FH share more than the theme of identity, but also **imitation**. I think the similarities might give us some clues about what mages are important to Wolfe when working with such a theme (although, for the most part I don't understand what they are). Crush also said: < > Shell responded: That's a great take on Mr. Million. You also then beg the question, what does it mean to be alive, or to die? Is Mr. Million the same "person," does he survive, i.e., still live, post-surgery, or does he die, to be replaced by something else with his memory? The same can be asked of Severian, Horn, and Silk. Crush answers: Well that's more on the whole identity theme isn't it? Marsch insists on addressing Maitre and #5 as though they are one person, which he asserts they are: "one personality". So Maitre doesn't exactly "die" when #5 kills him. The Original may have recognized this since his main conscious purpose seems to have been immortality. Since you appreciate my "take", I'll explain why I believe it. 1. It seems rather coincidental to me that Tante Jeanine would die (to the ultimate advantage of #5) within a couple years of inheriting Cave Canem. 2. In #5's dream Mr. Million is steering the ship. 3. In #5's dream he warns Tante Jeanine to "stay away" from Mr. Million because he might "hurt" her. Shell adds: FWIW, here are a few others I thought of. The machines that guard the prison camps foreshadow the Taluses of the LS. The inquisitors of Dr. Marsch seem like the Ayuntamiento. And Mr. Million foreshadow's Lemur & Co., humans who transplant their minds into machines, as distinguished from "mere" chems, whose identities are created by man. Crush piles on: Nice. Here are some more: 1. Sol is in the Lizard's Tail constellation. = Horn and Nettle settle on the "tail of Lizard Island. 2. V.R.T. is constantly "practicing his hand" in his journal. = The chem at the Sun St. mantaeon does the same. 3. The Shadow Child tells Sandwalker that the abos were originally "mostly long" (this could mean they were like the trees but I don't think so. I think they were like the giant red luminous worms Dr. Marsch reports seeing) = Of course LS/SS has serpentine aliens. -- Crush. --