Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 19:19:52 +1100
From: Che Monro 
Subject: RE: (urth) Che's "Gender in TBOTLS" and "Questions"

At 05:44 PM 3/03/03 -0600, you wrote:
>Che challenges Crush's premature abandonment of his male Hyacinth theories:
>Che pushes harder:
>Che attempts to lure Crush out of his protective hollow:

*giggles and hides a smile behind her, um *ahem* his hand, Yes* You know 
they don't call me The Flirt for nothing. ;)

>Wolfe was playing with a **lot** of subtext in the relationship between Silk
>and Oreb. However, since, as you say, you are quite literally minded, I
>doubt there is much of interest about them that I can to offer you. Still,
>the story of the Eye of Horus at least is an interesting read even if you
>don't care that in Wolfe's retelling, Oreb is "the Eye."

Oh I must go and look this up. Was Horus the one who got torn up into 
little bits or was that Pas? Or Osiris? The all seeing eye of Horus also 
comes into Lois MacMaster Bujold's work as the symbol of ImpSec, the 
security wing of the Barrayar Imperium. Coincidence? I think not!

It's quite plausible to assume that the Whorl is traversing near Barrayaran 
space and they plant Oreb on board as a secret agent. Nobody will suspect 
an innocent bird of being a spy who watches everything. This would make The 
Outsider... Simon Illyan, the head of ImpSec. Does Bujold ever mention 
spybirds? No, but someone else does. Was it Harry Harrison in The Stainless 
Steal Rat?

But where is Miles in all of this, I hear you ask? I don't know, probably 
lost down in all those tunnels that look alike along with everyone else.

Can anyone disprove this theory for me, please?

Anyhow, thanks for the information on Oreb, it's provided a whole new light 
on the book for me. Um, that's a positive thing, I think. ;)

Che





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