From: "ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus" 
Subject: (urth) Lanark and the Sand Garden
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 11:14:29 +0000

Malco/Nastler:

>He does say that, but he also admits that although
>Thaw/Lanark is based on himself they have been altered
>in various ways in order that the reader will become
>more attached to them. In any case, I trust Nastler as
>far as I can comfortably spit out a rat.

Which is as little as Lanark ended up trusting him...understandably...

(sigh)...where's one of my copies?

""Bloody rotten," said Lanark.  "I haven't read as much as you have, I never 
had the time, but when I visited public libraries in my twenties _half_ the 
science fiction stories had scenes like that in them, usually at the end.  
These banal world destructions prove nothing but the impoverished minds of 
those who can think of nothing better."

The conjuror's mouth and eyes opened wide and his face grew red.  He began 
speaking in a shrill whisper which swelled to a bellow: "_I am not writing_ 
science fiction!  Science-fiction stories have no real people in them, and 
all my characters are real, real, real people!  I may astound my public by a 
dazzling deployment of dramatic metaphors designed to compress and 
accelerate the action, but that is not science, it is magic!  Magic!  As for 
my ending's being banal, wait till you're inside it...""

(p. 498, Canongate 1981 hbk.)

Needless to say, as a member of this list, _I_ don't wholly agree with 
Nastler, either...

>Personally I dislike the idea of the books being bound
>separately, it might give someone the nasty idea of
>reading them in the "right" order. Which would be the
>wrong thing to do.

Well, yes...but if somebody's gonna be minded to do that, they'll do it 
regardless of the binding, I suspect.  I myself have never done it, despite 
having lost count of my readings.  Nastler wants the books "thought of" in 
the 'right' order; not necessarily _read_ in that order.

The thing which would suck me in if I had the money is that with four 
volumes, you get four times the cover illustrations...as well as a new essay 
by Mr. Gray on the writing of the book...

>I'll also say that Lanark deals with the judgement of
>a society following an assessment of the main
>character by a council of representatives.

?

Nastler says: "The Thaw narrative shows a man dying because he is bad at 
loving.  It is enclosed by [Lanark's] narrative which shows civilization 
collapsing for the same reason."  (p.484.)

Dunno if this necessarily equates with a _judgement_ per se...and Lanark's 
abject failure at the 'general assembly of council states' in Provan was 
_planned_ and _intended_ by Sludden, who sent him there knowing he was going 
to get rolled...

The council is disgusted by his abjectness and jeers at him after his arrest 
and release from the drunk-tank, yes, but the destruction of Unthank is not 
caused by this event...

>And I was
>particularly taken by the passage where Thaw accuses
>God of using "a torturers trick"  (!!!) to gain his
>worship. Thaw prays for mercy during an awful asthma
>attack.

Well, you've given me something to contemplate...the relations between Mr. 
Gray and Mr. Wolfe as authors...I suppose there must be some, beyond the 
fact that they are two of my most favoured...but I don't know precisely what 
they are...

>And please also consider "Unlikely stories, mostly"
>EVERYONE should own a copy of "The book of prefaces"

Let's face it...just go get the lot...

...but how could you omit 'Janine'?  Canongate is reprinting it this 
year...at last...

*

Moving over to the Sand Garden (and back on-list-topic)...Blattid thus:

>So I'm thinking that they don't come from the "real" South Africa at all, 
>but from the South Africa of jungle movies.

That was what I always suspected, myself...or what if they don't come from 
_our_ Urth, or not exactly ours?  The one next door, perchance...

...who knows what those doors in the Garden open on to...


->Zx<-

Oh, BTW - am I the only 'Lanark' reader who is irresistibly reminded of 
Sludden every time I hear/see Tony Blair?
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