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Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:50:05 -0500
From: James Jordan 
Subject: Re: (urth) lions of Ares

         Lions, eh? Well, since we don't know where Wolfe is going in this 
series, if he ever gets to go there, maybe it is worth pointing out that 
the royal house of David are the Lions of Judah. You are wondering if Latro 
is like Severian, who is both Apollo and a post-Christ Christlike 
Christian. Maybe Latro is both Ares and a pre-Christ Davidlike 
pre-Christian. (There has to be a better way to say that, but you get the 
point, I'm sure.)
         You wrote:

   Remember that the black man's name is Seven Lions, and the
>man with a lance was kind of blackish.

         The Emperor of Ethiopia is also the Lion of Judah.

>Why aren't Latro's symbols wolves instead of lions, since his name is

         Maybe that what the wolf is in Roman territory, the lion is in the 
parts farther east? Coordinate imagery? Or that Latro is Roman wolf in his 
mere humanity, and Ares/David(?) in his divinely-empowered humanity? When 
Lucius is empowered by Virtue (arete) he is Latro? Lucius : Latro :: Jesus 
: Christ :: any Roman : Ares?

>I don't think that one lion can clearly identify the black rider when 
>latro is
>suffused with lion companions.  However, I maintain that there is a close
>relationship between Latro and Ares, and that Nike certainly follows him
>without appearing to him.

         Is the black rider the "divine archetype" of the black man?

Just some grist for your mill. It's been a long time since I read these, so 
perhaps none of this is helpful!



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