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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2003 00:01:10 -0700 From: maa32Subject: (urth) horn, blue, hierax, etc. Thanks for the encouraging words, Mooncalf. Yes, I believe at one point I posted that the huh-huh-huh sounds were Horn trying to say his own name to his son, who didn't recognize him. Also, I think that the quest to find Silk is finished by helping Pig get his eyes back: Silk has erased himself from his normal body at the death of Hyacinth, and the divine part of Silk is trapped in Pig when Pig loses his eyes. In order to get Silk's mind or soul back into his body, which is being kept alive by Horn's spirit, Pig must be able to get Silk out of himself through an eye, and the extracted Silk can be downloaded into Silk's body, at which point the rest of the quest is to get rid of Horn, which I believe happens underneath that tree at the end of OBW, and then eliminating the residual spirit of Horn left behind and getting through the guilt of erasing Horn before Silk can admit that he is indeed Silk. The Scylla questions are very interesting to me as well - because I think that tomb on Urth is very important, especially if it is the same one that Severian plays in as a child, where he is himself buried (or someone who he is a copy of). That Aavangen question is a huge one. Should we think she is an inhuma? No. A neighbor? no. Why should we feel sorry for Beroep? Doesn't she speak in the proper word order to be a true citizen of that town? Is she a spy of the Mother? (Or, as I like to think of her, one of the daughters of Scylla the Monster?) Do you like my idea that Chenille has returned to Blue in a lander from green with the same ring that Horn used to wear? When Jahlee feeds on the "drunk" woman in the tavern in Return to the Whorl, Silk mistakes her for Chenille. I think Chenille is in town mourning the loss of her children, so Silk just barely misses her after she is preyed upon by Jahlee. Sinew repaired the lander and sent Chenille on it, so the lander they may find at the end was the one that Horn probably died in. One more thing: I think that the blind man that Horn mistakes for Auk in the story that is told at the beginning of IGJ (the one that he has to kill) is in fact the god Hierax. He has fled into that man, and later we learn that Hierax is dead. Where did he die? The narrator mistook that man for Auk, who we know is alive because he's in a basement on Green, because at one time Auk was possessed for a long time by that God. (Or have I confused him with Tartaros? In any case, The Blind God has hidden himself in that man, who gets killed trying to take out Horn on Green). Well, thanks again for the credit, Mooncalf. I owe much of my theories to a ton of people on the list who asked the right questions at the right time (such as James Jordan, who actually inspired me to find a "viable" explanation for the vanished people with his attempt to put my miscellaneous observations into a chronology, whether we believe any of my ideas as a group or not). Thanks for taking the time to read the old stuff! Marc Aramini --