From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
Subject: Re: (urth) Sev's not-so-perfect memory Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:04:28 -0700 Roy, Two points: one general, one nit. The general point: In most of the (apparent?) contradictions you list, you make an interesting assumption ... you cite Sev talking about an incident, then say that what he says is wrong, because it contradicts what he said in his direct narration of the incident. The point here is, what is your basis for thus privileging the direct narration, when both are from the same source (i.e., Sev)? If I were to privilege one over the other, I would be more likely to go the other way -- he's more likely to "edit" the incident when he's attending directly to it, rather than when he's attending to some other incident in which the incident in question is mentioned in passing. This would be especially true, I think, when the passing mention is in reported dialogue; it might not occur to him to edit the reported dialogue to match the edited incident. The second point has to do with the Feast of Holy Katherine. The contrast between his own feast, with "gray shirt and ragged trousers," and the "relatively new and clean clothes [the apprentices] had been given for the ceremony" strikes me as just that -- a contrast. It isn't a contradiction; it's a fact of the ceremony. The apprentice to be raised is not among the general run of apprentices that day; he is participating in a ceremony in which he is changed, from prentice to journeyman. Part of the symbolism of the ceremony -- pardon me if I am belaboring the obvious -- is the taking off of the garb of the prentice and the donning of the fuligin cloak of the journeyman. (In particular, recall that the journeyman never wears a shirt under his cloak.) Thus it would be appropriate, even necessary, for those being elevated, and _only_ them, to wear ragged clothes. --Blattid _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --