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From: Patri10629@aol.com Subject: Re: (whorl) blood and despair Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:35:02 [Posted from Whorl, the mailing list for Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun] Well said, Henry Rathvon (regarding human futility versus divine plans) and Peter Cash, esp. re: Hyacinth's probable spying. The list of her bedmates (all high-ranking officials) is convincing enough for me. But the idea that a Matriarchy wouldn't trust a man (Crane) to run the covert ops, sinks it. Poor Silk. Sad Good Silk. Anyone else get the feeling that there are fathoms of mystery yet unplumbed in these books? Every time I re read I'm stunned by how Wolfe can couch the most startling revelations in a throwaway bit of dialogue. Examples escape me at the moment. Sorry. How about Oreb? What a strange loveable bird! But his favorite dish is eyes:) Perhaps he, of all the characters, sees most clearly. Not sure what I mean. The switch to his POV in CALDE OF THE LONG SUN, I think, is stunning. And, sorry, I won't expand on how Wolfe annoys me. I'm sure it's rooted in envy:) SPOILER WARNING: Tho it's probably too late if you've been reading these posts for a while. Wasn't that an amazing moment when suddenly in the middle of a tense diplomatic discussion around dinner, the narrator reveals himself? "Then I walked in." Christ, my jaw literally dropped. For what it's worth: I review the Long Sun Books in the next issue of SF EYE--due out, I'm told, "soon". Watch for it. Hope I do these amazing books justice. And kudos to all who've joined this enlightening discussion. I hope Gene is peeking over our shoulders now. Though, he's probably smirking, thinking--"Dopes. They've missed all the embedded Borges, Kipling, and Chesterton!" As I did:) Like I said: Annoying:) Patrick O'Leary Author of DOOR NUMBER THREE email: Patri10629@aol.com My Homepage: http://users.aol.com/patri10629 Questions or problems to whorl-owner@lists.best.com