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From: douge@nti.com (Doug Eigsti) Subject: (whorl) Void Cross Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:32:51 [Posted from Whorl, the mailing list for Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun] Fernando writes, > **** On Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:17:47 -0700 (MST), douge@nti.com (Doug Eigsti) said: > > Doug> I like your diagram it does seem to allow for the void-cross, and > Doug> it is a nice plus-sign shape. I can find two things to take > Doug> exception. One: The disconnected gammas which you mentioned. It > Doug> would be more elegant if the gammas were self connected, not needing > Doug> a framework to keep them together. Two: Gammas do not have arms of > Doug> equal length. They look like an upside down capitol "L". > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > > Doug> This has the advantage of being connected and built exclusively from > Doug> four gamma shaped objects. One can see how Silk could use a gamma as > Doug> a screwdriver for tightening the power connections on a window. > > It has the disadvantage, though, of not being a cross at all! Since Wolfe > repeatedly says "voided cross", I'd expect something that was a cross but > had some sort of hole it in. (Or was missing something---an allusion I > think Wolfe intends but that is immaterial to the shape of the thing.) > > > Fernando > > > -- > > Fernando Q. Gouvea > Chair, Dept. of Math & CS Editor, MAA Online > Colby College http://www.maa.org > fqgouvea@colby.edu fqgouvea@maa.org > ========================================================== Fernando, My concept of a voided cross is that of a cross shaped void. I found a couple of references in LONG SUN to support this: NIGHTSIDE p.112.1 - "There was a secret in the empty, X-shaped space,... a mystery far beyond the detachable arms." CALDE p. 322.1 - "...again traced the sign of addition, which could not - now he came to think of it - ever have been Pas's. A sign of addition was a cross... Pas's sign was not a cross but the voided cross." Note that it is the empty space that is considered the cross, not the surrounding framework. The OED sheds some light on this also: GAMMADION - A decorative pattern formed of repititions or combinations of the shape of the Greek letter gamma. By antiquaries applied otherwise fylfot. Also to a figure composed of four gammas placed back to back in such a way as to form a voided Greek cross. VOIDED - 2. having a part or portion cut out so as to leave a void or vacant space. c. Her(aldry) - voided per cross - c1828 Berry. Encycl. Her. Gloss. voided per cross is a voiding in the form of a cross, such as a cross Moline, and the like, voided, or cut, out in the middle in the shape of a plain cross through which the field is seen. Dave Lebling referred me to the OED. Thanks. Dave has stated on these pages that he thinks Silk's cross fits the OED definition. Dave, I visited the cross web site you listed and found it very well done. Someone is really into crosses. The second listing for a gammadion does indeed look like a passable design for Pas's Void Cross. You are correct that the gammas do not need to have arms of unequal length. The gammadion listed there shows each of the four gammas being symmetrical. I am willing to concede that this gammadion shaped like a Greek Cross is probably the one intended by Wolfe. It being a more obscure reference than the swastica definition for a gammadion would appeal to Wolfe's flair for mischief while still maintaining his tendency to utilize existing, albeit obsolete, words, weapons and other implements. This design makes a fine hearldric symbol but cannot be directly translated into a physical object. I still prefer the design I had referred to earlier as being more satisfying because all the gammas are physically connected without an additional framework and because the cross appears without orienting the gammas in a cross pattern. The void does not follow the shape of the gammas. When looking at the other gammadion the eye is drawn to the outline determined by the gammas and not to the narrow void in the middle. One nomenclature oddity strikes me as I researched the references to the void cross: the individual pieces of the gammadion are themselves referred to as gammadions: NIGHTSIDE - p.217.-5 - "...pointed corner of one of the four gammadions..." NIGHTSIDE - P.292.1 - "...gammadion by gammadion..." Is this correct? =Doug Eigsti= douge@nti.com Questions or problems to whorl-owner@lists.best.com