From: Reusch <email@example.com> Subject: (whorl) Lost in Space Date: Sun, 13 Apr 97 09:16:26 [Posted from WHORL, the mailing list for Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun] Like Mantis, a couple of my postings seem to have been lost in space, = I'll try them again here, and offer my apologies if they appear twice. Subject: identity crisis Sent: 4/11/97 8:54 AM To: Whorl forum, firstname.lastname@example.org Attention Mainframe! For some reason, I am no longer receiving = messages from the Whorl. The last one was about a week ago. I've got = a cat that I would love to sacrifice to you, if that would bring you = back to my window. Thanks for all of the responses to my questions. (I downloaded the = archive to get them.) Vizcacha, I love the Rose as Echidna spin on = her personality. It serves to further underscore the fact that NONE = of the main characters in this book are who we (at first) think they = are, or even who they think they are. But that brings me back to = Pike; was he what he seemed? Silk "saw" that Pike was praying to the = Outsider for help, and that he, Silk, was that help. Assuming that = this is a true interpretation of a true vision, (and when dealing = with Silk, that could be a dangerous assumption), why was Pike = praying? For help, OK, but help for what? To save the manteion, Silk = assumes. But what, in Pike's time, did the manteion need saving from? = Tax collectors? Does a holy man pray for tax relief? And then get it? = That seems pretty unlikely. And why did he pray to the outsider, = instead of the gods of mainframe? Was he aware of their nature? = Perhaps he was aware of Quetzal's nature, and was fighting against = him? Perhaps he was working with Quetzal? Hmmm... And yes, I agree with you that Rose is in effect a corpse. Was. Since = a big chunk, if not all, of her memories and even personality get = transferred to Marble via her "parts", it seems reasonable to assume = that these are what was animating Rose, and not her brain. As an aside, it seems unlikely that Horn would have any knowledge of = that scene of Rose as Echidna kneeling before her daughter. Is this a = contrived jab at a teacher that he didn't like? Especially since soon = after this point Rose punishes Horn for imitating Silk. About Silk's killing the bird on Blood's roof=8Byes, I'm aware of = Silk's explanation of the bird "forgetting" that it couldn't fly, and = falling to its death. It just seemed to me to be one of Silk's = patented "all-too-quick-however-unlikely" assumptions. I was = wondering if anyone had a more likely explanation. I guess that my = thought was that it was further evidence of Silk's genetic super-hero = abilities. OK, Vance means fletcher (of arrows), so a natural choice for a = pseudonym for myself would be some type of feather. Does anyone out = there know anything about feathers? I don't. I'd like to use the name = Ma'at, but that's a bit presumptuous, I suppose. May every god favor you Vance Subject: thank you, my son Sent: 4/11/97 10:56 PM To: Whorl forum, email@example.com Well, my prayer to mainframe in my last message was granted, I am = once again receiving. Thank you. Now, what about that Urth mailing = list? I haven't heard anything from it yet, and I subscribed soon = after it went up. Mantis, I just received your response to my initial questions. I like your = Pike-Quetzal explanation. It follows pretty closely with what I had = been thinking. Although I didn't mean to imply that what Silk saw was = an "actual" ghost, I'm not sure of what it was. I'm warm to the = aquastor theory, but not sold on it, unless what mainframe produces = for people to see their deceased loved ones are aquastors. That = would make it more likely, at least to me. Thanks for the response, and I'm anxiously awaiting my copy of your = Q&D Guide! Vance Well, there it is. And yes, I am now receiving both lists, thank you.