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From: douge@nti.com (Doug Eigsti) Subject: Re: (whorl) Voided Cross Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:09:37 [Posted from WHORL, the mailing list for Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun] > > > From Wolfe's answers to our questions: > > > 18. "Describe . . . a voided cross and a gammadion." A gammadion is > > any figure composed of gamma-shaped pieces. The most common > > gammadions are the swastika and the voided cross. (The swastika is > > ancient, by the way, and is found in both East Indian and American > > Indian art.) To make a voided cross, arrange four gammas, not > > touching, so that the points point toward a common center. > > What are the "points" of a gamma? Is this what he's describing? It's the > best I could think of from that description (monospaced font required!). > If you need them to be "not touching" to make the voided cross, how are > they linked together? > > O > O X > OO XXXX > > ZZZZ QQ > Z Q > Q > -Rostrum > Rostrom, Yes, I think your diagram accurately illustrates what he was describing. Your point on linking is a valid one, although there are few of us who think it matters. The physical object worn by chapter members in LONG SUN is comprised of four gamma shaped objects that are useful as screwdrivers. These are somehow linked to form the Void Cross. To me it seems that any linking device intruding into the "void" area would either fill the void or alter the "gamma". I dredged out an ancient post form the archives describing my favorite shape for the Void Cross: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX OOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX This is composed solely of four true gammas with no linking bridges. The void in the center is a plus sign shaped cross. To me this better satisfies the requirements of Pas's Void Cross than does the one described by Gene Wolfe in his response to the train question. Note: that Gene Wolfe was not asked to describe Pas's void cross but only a "voided cross and a gammadion". His reply stated the encyclopedia definitions for both, and not necessarily the void cross worn by Silk, Quetzal, and Remora. Do we take Gene Wolfe speaking ex cathedra on this, or any other subject, over the evidence found in the text. I find it stifling to think that an impression garnered by a reader from the text can be called wrong. If a reader's impression is as well supported in the text as an alternative view, who's to say which is correct? If they do not arrive at the identical conclusion that the author had intended perhaps the author did not express himself clearly enough. Fiction is an artform. An painter must be judged by what he has put up on the canvas not by what he says to the art lovers looking on in the gallery. An actor's performance can only be judged by what the audience sees on the screen, not by his motivation or preparation. A writer of fiction can be appreciated only by the words on the page. Gene Wolfe is one of my favorite artists. The pictures he paints in my head are among the most beautiful of any writer. They probably do not look like those of any other reader. I noticed that after the answer train came in, the Pike's Ghost dialog was terminated. The aquastor theory was sounding good to me, but Gene Wolfe stated that machines were not involved. End of discussion? Don't let the answer train railroad us into seeing pictures that aren't there. =Talon=